POV of the other side
@meena @kittybecca They don't read the message contents. They learned to read a subtext of oppression of free speech... Kinda similar to how they constantly get amazed about how lefties read any piece complaining about them losing what they know and explaining it as hate, which they then wear as a badge of honor because people don't listen to each other either way.
@kittybecca Everett (@Ev) Bogue here is the creator of Bogbook. He used to go almost fully off-grid and created a movement about minimalism in those days. Of course as anybody we learn and look back to some of these things as naive or not relevant any more, but still those things form who we are and what we do, and I am really glad about what is being created out of that. He seems to be quite aware and sweet about things, fingers crossed.
@kittybecca As much as I understand it from Everett, HTTPS data can be misused to identify users for cookie-like purposes (he refered to supercookies) leading to targetted removal from discourse (e.g. Facebook shadow banning, which they seemingly patented...).
Shadow banning is incredibly effective and can be/is used for good (removing hate and triggers), but when all you have is commercial owned platforms, shadow banning is used in practice to decide in which bubble we live.
@kittybecca And you can also just download the code (his git or my git) and run it locally. It's MUCH smoother than getting anything of SSB working xD
@kittybecca To be specific, the bug enabled people to snoop on private messages and this went unacknowledged. bogbook doesn't have any private messaging yet, so encryption is kinda less of an issue for now...
@kittybecca The dev of bogbook used to work on SSB but left the project when they went silent on a privacy breaking bug. Much tech in interskri.be / bogbook.com is SSB-inspired, but it's specifically not SSB, and it's web first, so you don't need a client.
@mew tried Deltarune already? does it have any Tem in it?
@freakazoid @tuxicoman @micahflee 2. mainstream crypto is US government grown, and there are unverifiable by the nature of the problem suspicions that they might have built in a one-way backdoor in the crypto by choosing the default parameters (e.g. in the case of Bitcoin using non-standard parameters I think that might be a reason) in use by everyone. This means that with non-diverse crypto, a problem means that everybody is spied on instead of a part. [2/2]
@freakazoid @tuxicoman @micahflee the home grown crypto is made for easy usability (it's much easier on phone hardware) and if it breaks down some time, it can easily be replaced. The problem with well-audited generally known crypto is twofold: 1. if one thing breaks, everything breaks. You want diversity to be able to switch to something not broken yet if something breaks down all of a sudden. [1/2]
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@bob @micahflee @tuxicoman SSB has a kinda in-between approach for private messages. it hides metadata better than the signal plan and it provides less load than bitmessage because it uses network proximity. it is expected in the network that some messages won't reach their destination. bitmessage has better reliability if you don't have an existing social network you can route the private message through. Telegram makes the right trade-offs for a server oriented system.
@micahflee @tuxicoman Adding metadata encryption will lure people into a bigger sense of security that might not be justified, so people take more risks and any spying done on data that is giving itself away will be much more effective. You basically know that security minded people will use it, and might risk their lives doing so.
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